In this episode, Barbara and Dr. Zilin Wang discuss:

  • The most challenging patient Dr. Wang encountered in his Diabetes Reversal Program
  • What is the most unexpected result from a patient on Diabetes Reversal Program which Dr. Wang got most excited
  • What is the feedback from Dr. Wang’s patients who have reversed their diabetes
  • What is Diabetes Reversal Program
  • What is Atherosclerotic Plaque Volume Reduction Program
  • Tips on people who are on the verge of a serious diabetic problem

Key Takeaways:

“Working with a patient over a 5 year period in the diabetes reversal program,  no medications are needed and even pre-diabetes is not evident now.” – Dr. Zilin Wang.

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Dr. Barbara Hales: Welcome to another episode of marketing tips for doctors. I’m your host, Dr. Barbara Hales.

Today, we’re privileged to have with us, Dr. Zilin Wang. Dr. Wang is an innovative cardiologist, and he’s the founder and CEO of WMD Heartcare. He has over 21 years of practice experience. Dr. Wang worked in academic and private practice settings as well.

He built cardiac imaging centers, atherosclerotic plaque volume reduction treatment models, and a diabetic reversal program. He’s also been actively engaged in clinical trials. Welcome to the show, Dr. Wang.

Dr. Zilin Wang: Thank you. Thank you for inviting me, Barbara.

Dr. Barbara Hales: Thank you.

The Most Challenging Patient on Diabetes Reversal Program

Dr. Barbara Hales: What would you say is the most challenging patient you have encountered in your diabetes reversal program?

Dr. Zilin Wang: The most challenging one is recent. I have a 16 years old Caucasian male who has had diabetes for many years and has diabetic neuropathy. And he’s on many medications for diabetes. Also, he’s on a very high dose of insulin daily, like 62 units a day. And I took a challenge with him.

And the two and a half months, I successfully won off his insulin, and right now, he’s on only one medication for diabetes, and his hemoglobin has dropped from 7.9 to 6.7 and 6.4. And his sugar is in very good control. And he feels much better; he’s working 8 to 10 hours a day on a 300-acre farm.

Unexpected Result Working With Patients on Diabetes Reversal Program

Dr. Barbara Hales  Well, that’s very impressive. What would you say is the unexpected result you have gotten working with your patients and what has most excite you?

Dr. Zilin Wang: Well, I have always been told that once you have diabetes, neuropathy isn’t irreversible. But on this particular occasion I just talked about, he has no longer have any symptoms of diabetic neuropathy. He told me his leg pain is all gone. His numbness, all gone. And he used to feel like a heavy feeling on his leg, and it’s all gone. That has got me excited because that’s changed a lot of things in terms of diabetic care.

Dr. Barbara Hales  That is very impressive. And what that tells people is that you must always have hope. Because even though at one point they say something can be done or not done, you’ve proven them wrong.

Dr. Ziling Wang: That’s correct. That excites me, and I think there’s a lot of potentials in terms of diabetic reversal.

Feedback From Patients Who Have Reversed Their Diabetes

Dr. Barbara Hales: What is the feedback from your patients who have reversed their diabetes? I can’t imagine they wouldn’t be thrilled.

Dr. Zilin Wang: That’s right. Most of them feel that they don’t have to take insulin, they don’t have to take oral medicine, they don’t have to check their sugar every day. And that liberates them, and also, some patients have hypoglycemia, so that’s an amazing feeling. Some even pass out.

While my oldest patient, who has changed her mind, decided to join my program at age 86. She converted back to become a non-diabetic. The whole motivation is she went to the emergency room frequently for hypoglycemia.

Diabetes Reversal Program

Dr. Barbara Hales: Could you tell our listeners a little bit about your diabetes reversal program?

Dr. Zilin Wang: Well, the diabetes reversal program is a very intense way of collation. Dr. Xu provides the program. Our mechanism is, first of all, we touch to the bottom root of the problem, which is a hallmark of diabetes is insulin resistance. So we’re trying to make insulin more sensitive, so you don’t have to release a lot of insulin.

The second step is we want to give you a beta cell, which is where the insulin is produced, give them labored rest, so they don’t work overtime and very hard, and exhaust themselves, and they will have a healthy recovery over time.

So that’s what we do. We make a patient’s diabetes reversed. It is a very complex process. But it’s durable.

Dr. Barbara Hales: That’s great. In the past, people had diabetes reversal programs that consisted of a diet and an exercise program. And clearly, patients need a lot more than that. So I’m glad that you address the insulin resistance problem.

Dr. Zilin Wang: Thank you. Yes. And we’ve been working hard. We have a patient right now entered into five years on no medication and has not need that diagnosis criterion for even pre-diabetes. And that’s sustained for them.

Atherosclerotic Plaque Volume Reduction Program

Dr. Barbara Hales: That’s great. Could you tell me a little bit about your atherosclerotic plaque volume reduction program?

Dr. Zilin Wang: That’s when I started. When I was a cardiac imaging director, the Wealth Affiliate Hospital in Columbia, in New York. My daily job started seeing all these ugly plaques. And then I questioned myself. I said, why don’t we address the plaque itself? We always talk about controlled hypertension, diabetes, cholesterol, obesity, etc. But nobody is directly working on the plaque itself.

So I started doing research and found the nature kroner imaging study. They actually can reduce the volume of the plaque. So that’s given me some hope. And later on, we just move on with many clinical trials. And we started designing our program. I started to implant in  2009 when I started my clinic, and with the many trial and errors, initially my patient’s stent, the bypass read about 70-80%, we gradually reduced to 10%.

In the last three years, not including 2020, we have had one patient stend per year for three years this year. So far, we have not referred any patient yet, but this year has not ended yet. So I cannot count this year but, it significantly reduced the standard rate bypass rate. Also, we have seen patients reduce hospitalization, reduce their symptoms, frequency, and have a better quality of life.

Dr. Barbara Hales: Clearly, this is an extremely exciting event. Because in the past, as we know, even having stents is not without its risks. And every once in a while, every one of us hears about someone unaware of the plaques, which broke off travel to the brain and caused a stroke and a person that might not even be that old.

So that’s great. How long do the patients contact you when they’ve decided to participate in your diabetes reversal program?

Connect with Dr. Zilin Wang

Dr. Zilin Wang: Well, they can check me on my Facebook. I have a page called Heartcare Plus, and my office phone number is 601-932-8060. And my office email is And also, we have a website called

Dr. Barbara Hales: I noticed that you’re located in Texas, but if a person wanted to work with you who is not located in your locale, do you work with them with their local doctors, or do you work with them on telehealth?

Dr. Zilin Wang: Oh, I’m located in Jackson, Mississippi. Yes, we can do telemedicine, and we can work with their doctors if they wish. And we can do many things together and all the ways they can come to see us as well, in any way we can make that happen.

Dr. Barbara Hales: Is there anything that they should do to prepare for a visit that they will be having with you?

Dr. Zilin Wang: Yes, we’d like to have their detailed medical history. And we like to have their medication list, allergic reaction list, and we want all these details. So we are also going to do very comprehensive blood work when they come over so we will know where to start. So we designed a personalized treatment plan.

Tips of People on Serious Diabetic Problem

Dr. Barbara Hales: That’s excellent. Before coming to you, do you have any tips for people who are on the verge of having a serious diabetic problem so that you could prevent them from having a problem or, on the other hand, enable them to recognize that they do have insulin resistance problems?

Dr. Zilin Wang: Well, unfortunately, diabetes is a silent disease. You don’t have any symptoms until it is kind of late, so it’s better for your doctor to check you if you have some risk factors. For example, you have unhealthy diets. You don’t exercise, and you’re overweight. And that’s a risk factor. Plus, if you have sleep apnea and high blood pressure, that puts you in the high-risk category. So you should be checking with your doctor to make sure you don’t have diabetes or pre-diabetes. If you start the symptoms wise, your diabetes self is a Latin name called sweet urine, that’s a Latin word that comes from your urine become sweet. And you easily get a urinary tract infection fungal, and sometimes you become extremely thirsty, and those symptoms are usually present in the late stage, not in the earliest stage. But anyway, check with your doctor, make sure you don’t have diabetes or pre-diabetes.

Dr. Barbara Hales: Okay. But nobody tests for your urine sweetness at home. No, no tasting.

Dr. Zilin Wang: That’s right. A great doctor tastes patient urine. And that’s how the diabetes was fun.

Dr. Barbara Hales  Okay, but nowadays, we have much better ways to test it.  Well, it has been very exciting to have you on our show today. Thank you so much, Dr. Wang, for sharing your knowledge with our listeners and for spending the time with us today.

Dr. Zilin Wang: Thank you for having me. Here. I am. It was my pleasure.